Just a brief call for help here. I'm thinking of joining a league for this season, starting in a week or two. It's 1500 points 'golden standard', so we have to play at least that point value and can play above it if both players agree.
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I want to build a good, balanced, all-comers 1500 point 'Nids list, and I need input! Please!
Doesn't look like there are any comp rules, but your opponent can award you 3 points for sportsmanship per game, and one point is 'is it a fair list', one point is 'would you play this person again'.
HELP!
Bonus round:
We don't have to take the same army each week, or even the same codex! So while I might not play it, I'm trying to build a 1500 point Blood Angels list with no mech except for dreads. Go!
For Nids at 1500, I like the Fexstar, so I might try ... (without points because I am not near the codex)
ReplyDeleteTyranid Prime (lash Whip Bone Sword)
Parasite
2x Hive Guard
2x Hive Guard
10 Termagaunts
1 Tervigon Toxic sacs, cluster spines, catalyst
20 gargoyles
Harpy w/ venom cannons
Harpy w/ Venom Cannons
Carnifex
Carnifex
I don't think this is "it" but I think it could be a good start (pretty sure it weighs in around 1500). You basically have a set of tank stunners in the harpys, who later can close with and lay down some templates with their spores and cluster spines. I would run the parasite with the gargoyles and use them as a countercharge unit or a back field harrassment unit to take out things like long fangs, scouts, ect. If the parasite spawns rippers, then they can block movement, provide cover save ect.
Tervi is there to breed objective grabbers and give the fex star FNP
Hive guard are obviously the anti-tank.
The Prime connects with the fexes to be the big CC unit everyone hates.
There are a lot of units here to distract the enemy and all have some teeth. I am not always sold on the fex star, so if you were to drop the prime and fexes and maybe pick up some trygons, then you would have a very fast list capable of dealing with just about anything.
Like I said, it's a start and I hope it helps to give you some direction.
Erm,
ReplyDeleteTyrant - devourers, old adversary & wings
2 x Hive Guard
2 x Hive Guard
10 x Termagants
10 x Termagants
Tervigon - adrenal glands & catalyst
Tervigon - adrenal glands & catalyst
20 x Gargoyles - toxin sacs
Trygon - adrenal glands
Trygon - adrenal glands
Maybe a Trygon or a Trygon Prime if you can ;)
Mercer, I like the way you're thinking... I wasn't even thinking of putting a Tyrant in at 1500 points, but that looks pretty viable and delicious.
ReplyDeleteOST, I own one 'fex, and it's getting turned into a Terv :p I also don't have harpies and don't have time to convert them up in the next couple of weeks, ditto parasite. I absolutely LOVE that you're suggesting the Parasite and 'Fexes, though, I love mixing it up!
Realistically though, this starts in a couple weeks and it's WYSIWYG, so I have to pretty much go by what I can assemble and have between now and then.
So here's what I've thrown together, and I'd love some input. I'm not crazy about this list, it doesn't feel 'right' to me, but I'd be willing to test it out...
Prime w/ BS/LW
2 Hive Guard
2 Hive Guard
Terv w/ Adren, Toxin, Catalyst
10 Termagants
8 Stealers w Toxins, Broodlord
8 Stealers w Toxins, Broodlord
20 Gargoyles w Adren (or toxin, haven't decided)
Trygon w/ Adren
Trygon w/ Adren
So here's my thinking: Prime can go with Hive guard or even maybe Termagants. Trygons do their thing, Genestealers outflank, Gargoyles pick a flank and race up.
Terv moves up along with gants and hive guard.
Problems:
- Gargoyles are going to go right out of synapse unless I keep them back and try to leapfrog units/cover. Having said that, they can happily chill out behind the gants and get cover, then make an assault/shoot
- AV14's going to ruin my picnic, since the Trygons would need to catch up to it, pop it, and then not get killed by whatever it's carrying
- Genestealers outflanking is great, but not without Swarmy or a Hive Commander tyrant to make them more dependable.
- This list is neither 'scuttling tide' nor 'super-fast strike' Tyranids. I'd get to the opposing army piecemeal, and I can't deny them 1-2 rounds of shooting.
- I'm short on synapse. I'd love Zoeys, but I still don't know how I'm going to make a spore... does anyone think I can get away with walking them up behind the swarm?
Gargoyles would be a waste of time because of synapse as you said.
ReplyDeleteTrygons with adrenal would have to do av14 or just hope your Hive Guard can glance and immobilise so the Trygons auto hit.
I wouldn't worry about the +1 reserve bonus, really.